Despre vaccinuri-intre minciuna si adevar

denizel spune:

Ti-l dau, Xeno, cum nu?!
Io tocmai scapai de unu' dat pe motive de atac la persoana unui dr. despre care se povestea pe-aicea ca, recomanda sucusor de morcovel la 2 luni . I-am trimis prin cineva vorba sa se duca sa se-mpuste, da' s-au suparat pe mine .

Maamiii, îmi place pielea ta! E ca de câltitzã" :-)) - din jurnalul unei mãmici de bãietel.

MissParker spune:

Semne de intrebare asupra efectelor secundare ale vaccinurilor, indemnuri la cercetare aprofundata in privinta vaccinurilor...


MAINSTREAM VOICES FOR VACCINE RESEARCH:

President Barack Obama -- Who said last year, that: "We've seen just a skyrocketing autism rate. Some people are suspicious that it's connected to the vaccines. The science right now is inconclusive, but we have to research it."

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton -- Who said last year that, " I am committed to make investments to find the causes of autism, including possible environmental causes like vaccines. We don't know what, if any, kind of link there is between vaccines and autism - but we should find out."

Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT) -- Who told Congress in 2006 that the Combatting Autism Act should fund "environmental research examining potential links between vaccines, vaccine components and autism. In January, 2008, he called efforts to strip vaccine research from funding, "contrary to the spirit of the (CAA) bill."

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) -- Who said last year, "It's indisputable that (autism) is on the rise amongst children, the question is what's causing it. And we go back and forth and there's strong evidence that indicates that it's got to do with a preservative in vaccines."

Sen. Mike Enzi (R-WY) -- Who told Congress in 2006, "I want to be clear that ... no research avenue should be eliminated, including biomedical research examining potential links between vaccines, vaccine components, and autism."

Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) -- Who concured on the Senate Floor with Senator Enzi's remarks.

Bob Wright, Co-Founder, Autism Speaks -- Who told the UK Daily Telegraph in 2008 that, "There is no question but that autism is partly genetic and partly environmental. We ought to be able to zero in on some of the environmental factors in early childhood. Vaccines are one of the variables."

CDC's Immunization Safety Office -- As part of its draft research agenda for vaccine safety, this agency last April proposed looking at several clinical outcomes from childhood vaccinations, including "Autoimmune diseases; central nervous system demyelinating disorders; encephalitis/ encephalopathy; and neurodevelopmental disorders including autism."

Former CDC Director Dr. Julie Gerberding -- who told CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta: "If a child was immunized, got a fever, had other complications from the vaccines, and if you're predisposed with the mitochondrial disorder, it can certainly set off some damage (and) symptoms that have characteristics of autism. We have to have an open mind."

Dr. Anthony Fauci, Director, National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases -- who told US News, "If we can show that individuals of a certain genetic profile have a greater propensity for developing adverse events, we may want to screen everyone prior to vaccination (for) undetectable diseases like a subclinical mitochrondrial disorder."

Drs. Richard I. Kelley, Kennedy Krieger Institute, Margaret L. Bauman, Massachusetts General Hospital, Marvin R. Natowicz, Cleveland Clinic, etc -- "Large, po****tion-based studies will be needed to identify a possible relationship of vaccination with autistic regression in persons with mitochondrial cytopathies."

Scientists at UC San Diego -- They wrote in the journal Autism that children given Tylenol after the MMR shot were several times more likely to develop autism. Tylenol can reduce levels of glutathione - a powerful antioxidant and detoxifier. "Tylenol and MMR was significantly associated with autistic disorder," the authors wrote. "More research needs to be completed to confirm the results of this preliminary study."

Former NIH Director and current IOM Member Dr. Bernadine Healy - She told CBS News that, "public health officials have been too quick to dismiss the (vaccine) hypothesis as 'irrational,' without sufficient studies of causation... without studying the po****tion that got sick."

Former Chief Scientific Officer, UK Department of Health, Dr. Peter Fletcher - The former equivalent of the US FDA Adminstrator, said, "This really proves the causal role of vaccines: Somali children who are newly exposed to aggressive vaccine programmes have exceptionally high levels of autism. What more evidence is needed? The refusal by governments to evaluate the risks properly will make this one of the greatest scandals in medical history."

Edit: Sursa este www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/keith-olbermann-todays-be_b_166103.html" target="_blank">Huffington Post. Cine doreste poate sa citeasca tot articolul, e interesant.

Mai sa fie, oare cei de mai sus or fi toti nebuni, criminali, iresponsabili?


Iar pentru cei care inca mai cred in corectitudinea studiilor pro-vaccinare, iata www.naturalnews.com/022479.html" target="_blank">AICI mai multe amanunte despre un studiu negand legatura vaccinuri-autism, studiu aparut intr-o publicatie medicala (Archives of General Psychiatry) care era altfel plina de reclame ale firmelor producatoare de vaccinuri... Nici tu conflict de interese, nici usturoi nu mancasera... ehe...

Acolo se precizeaza si ca singurul jurnal medical independent si de incredere este www.plosmedicine.org/home.action" target="_blank">PLoS Medicine, o publicatie care nu ia bani de la firmele farmaceutice. Evident ca ei nu au publicat acel studiu... qed

sirimie spune:

Exista vreun doctor care sa spuna cu certitudine ca exista o legatura directa intre vaccinuri si autism? Sau sint in continuare doar presupuneri si cercetari etc?


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MissParker spune:

Pai daca se baga pumnul in gura tuturor celor care pun vaccinarea sub semnul intrebarii, de unde vrei rezultate clare si studii semnificative, cand nici macar studiile pro-vaccinare nu sunt semnificative?

xenocid spune:

MissParker a omis sa va dea si sursa pomelnicului de mai sus.
E de la www.whale.to/a.html" target="_blank">whale.to o prestigioasa cloaca conspirationista unde pe langa faptul ca presedintele Obama are dubii asupra vaccinurilor puteti afla si ca e www.whale.to/b/hand.html" target="_blank">satanist. Si el si www.whale.to/b/obamavogue-1.jpg" target="_blank">nevasta'sa.

sirimie spune:

Nu cred ca lipsesc studiile din cauza pumnului in gura. Uita-te la tine, cu toate ca tu crezi ca "toti in pun pumnul in gura", nu iti schimbi parerea si nici nu esti de acord sa o reconsideri. Nu exista concluzii certe pentru ca probabil nu exista motive pentru certitudinea ca vaccinurile sint nocive.

Cit despre pro-vaccinare, exista mai multe certitudini. Una din ele e ca boli grave ca poliomelita, tetanosul au fost eradicate in urma vaccinarii in masa. Unii iau premii Nobel pentru noi vaccinuri care ofera speranta contra altor maladii.


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MissParker spune:

Uite ca exista mai multi medici care au constatat o legatura directa:

MITOCHONDRIAL DYSFUNCTION AND AUTISM:

The Hannah Poling Case - A year ago, medical personnel at HHS determined that this girl's autism was caused by, "vaccine induced fever and immune stimulation that exceeded metabolic reserves." Hannah had low cellular energy related to her underlying and mild mitochondrial dysfunction. Many children with autism claims in Vaccine Court have almost identical mitochondrial dysfunction.
Mitochondrial disorders are not rare in autism -- Research suggests that dysfunction may affect 10-to-30% of all kids with autism -- perhaps more among "regressive" cases.

Sursa este tot articolul citat mai sus.

Dar tu poti sa alegi sa inchizi ochii in continuare.

Pt. cine nu stie nimic despre cazul Hannah Poling, e o fetita de 9 ani (fiica de medic neurolog, by the way) care la 19 luni a fost vaccinata cu 5 vaccinuri (DPT, HiB, MMR, anti-varicela si anti-polio). Hannah era pe atunci o fetita activa, jucausa, comunicativa. 2 zile mai tarziu era letargica, irascibila, plangea permanent, refuza sa mai mearga si facea febra. La 10 zile dupa vaccinare s-au manifestat simptomele unei varicele cauzate de vaccin.

Luni mai tarziu, cu intarzieri grave in dezvoltarea neurologica si psihologica, Hannah a fost diagnosticata cu encefalopatie pe baza unui deficit de enzime mitocondrial. Simptomele includeau probleme de limbaj, de comunicare si comportament - toate trasaturile spectrului autistic.

Ati retinut ca tatal ei e medic neurolog? Ei, el s-a convins pe propria piele la modul cel mai dureros ca fetita lui a fost vatamata de vaccinuri, ca vaccinurile au fost factorul declansator al encefalopatiei. Mai clar: nu problemele mitocondriale au distrus-o pe fetita, ea fusese absolut ok pana la vaccinare...

Ah, da, verdictul final a fost in favoarea familiei Poling, by the way, carora li s-au platit despagubiri ()primul verdict de acest gen, dar nu e ultimul, adevarul si dreptatea vor iesi la iveala mai des pe viitor!!), dar oare cat i-a putut consola asta pe parintii fetitei?

MissParker spune:

Tetanosul nu a fost niciodata epidemie, ca sa fie eradicat. Tetanosul nu se ia, asa ca informeaza-te mai bine cand iti reciti aici textele de propaganda standard...

Edit: am spus din nou si aici cam tot ce am avut de spus, cred ca cei care au postat cerand informatii au acum destul material la dispozitie ca sa se informeze mai bine inainte de a decide. Pe ceilalti, care vor doar polemica si indignari pentru doza de adrenalina, ii salut din mers.

sirimie spune:

Nu inteleg prea bine. Fetita avea "Mitochondrial disorders", a facut un vaccin si asta i-a provocat autism? Dar ea putea avea autism inainte de vaccinare, scrie ca "Research suggests that dysfunction may affect 10-to-30% of all kids with autism "

Din cite stiu eu nimeni nu stie cauzele autismului. Unii spun ca e din cauza ca parintii sint prea batrini, altii ca e genetic, altii ca din cauza vaccinurilor. Dar NIMENI nu poate spune cu certitudine care este cauza.


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sirimie spune:

Nu se ia de la mama la fat? Dar ai dreptate, nu e o boala eradicata, am gresit, scuze.


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