Mamici Noiembrie-Decembrie 2005 (6)
Raspunsuri - Pagina 10
anda77 spune:
nu, nu e "pe sistem nervos". n-am mancat (aproape) niciodata de stres, iar acum chiar am o perioada linistita in viata. totusi, in afara de sarcina, la mine ar mai fi o cauza pentru aceasta pofta de mancare: eu eram, inainte de sarcina, fumatoare de un pachet pe zi, acum fumez max.3 tigari. asta da, imi da o dorinta de a manca putin compulsiva, dar nu pot sa desconsider si FOAMEA REALA. probabil am un bebe mai mancacios, da vad ca nu papa tot, doar putin si restul se pune la ma'-sa pe fund... oricum am vazut ca depasesc masura si acum ma straduiesc si cu vointa si cu fructe si cu eliminat alimentele periculoase, dar marturisesc ca nu am succes prea mare.
este clar ca eu voi da o batalie cu mancatul compulsiv sau necompulsiv, pe toata perioada celor 9 luni. nu ma las eu.
oricum, va multumesc ca ati raspuns toate cu ce sfat a stiut fiecare mai bine. va marturisesc ca la inceput am considerat acest forum un prilej de semidivertisment si informare in anumite limite, dar acum consider ca atat caracterul informativ, cat si cel de sprijin sunt cu mult peste ceea ce credeam eu.
va pup
anda77 spune:
pineapple, toxo igg sau igm a iesit pozitiv? eu m-am uitat putin pe net dar n-am gasit valorile limita. oricum pentru oricare dintre ele, daca nu sunt ridicate, stiu ca se poate face tratament fara avort. oricum, trebuie sa-ti intrebi medicul ce riscuri are (a avut deja) aceasta valoare pentru fat. bafta, te asteptam cu vesti bune
pineapple spune:
Ce ma bucur pentru orice raspuns! In capul meu e varza acuma... Nu stiu care, abia ieri am repetat aanaliza pentru IgM si IgG, voi afla intr-o saptamana. Mi s-a zis toxo, 160 , atat... 
Si ca-i la limita, deci daca era 159 era bine....???
mirabilis spune:
Anda, este intr-adevar neplacut ce ti se intampla. Ai cumva cuptor cu microunde? sa stii ca daca inveti sa gatesti la el si daca suplinesti unele ingrediente cu altele mai slabe (de ex smantana cu iaurtul, etc) in timp se va observa. Eu fac de toate la microunde, inclusiv omleta. Poti incerca. Si inca ceva, poate te ajuta daca te gandesti ca nu ii e bine lui bebe daca mananci dulciuri si grasimi si prajit..?
Oricum, mult succes si...foame moderata!
xandra28 spune:
bb alinus,
si eu sunt oarecum in situatia in care este anda77... cu pofta de mancare
si chiar am senzatia ca este de la vitamine, si poate si de la utrogestan, am exact senzatia pe care ai descris-o, daca nu mananc cand mi se face foame, incep sa tremur...
iar eu inainte nu aveam probleme de tinut cure, sunt peste greutatea normala si de cand ma stiu am tinut regimuri... iar acum, ce sa zic, in 2 luni am luat 6 kile 
naspa rau
xandra 
11+
anda77 spune:
pineapple, tot nu gasesc valorile, dar mai jos ai mai multe informatii despre igg si igm la toxo si la gravida cu toxo. nu vreau sa te sperii, dar am citit ca o valoare mare poate sa dea bebe cu probleme mari: retard, chiar lipsa partiala a creierului, iar pe de alta parte sunt femei care au nascut bebe sanatosi tinand toxo sub o anumita valoare, dar nu stiu care e aia. trebuie neaparat intrebat doctorul si luat tratament.
mai caut valorile alea...
The detection of Toxoplasma-specific antibodies is the primary diagnostic method to determine infection with Toxoplasma. Toxoplasma antibody detection tests are performed by a large number of laboratories with commercially available kits.
An algorithm for the immunodiagnosis of toxoplasmosis for individuals greater than one year of age is shown in the following figure. The IFA and EIA tests for IgG and IgM antibodies are the tests most commonly used today. Persons should be initially tested for the presence of Toxoplasma-specific IgG antibodies to determine their immune status. A positive IgG titer indicates infection with the organism at some time. If more precise knowledge of the time of infection is necessary, then an IgG positive person should have an IgM test performed by a procedure with minimal nonspecific reactions, such as IgM-capture EIA. A negative IgM test essentially excludes recent infection, but a positive IgM test is difficult to interpret because Toxoplasma-specific IgM antibodies may be detected by EIA for as long as 18 months after acute acquired infection.
A major problem with Toxoplasma-specific IgM testing is lack of specificity. Two situations occur frequently: i) persons with a positive IgM but negative IgG, and ii) individuals with positive IgG and IgM results. In the first situation, a positive IgM result with a negative IgG result in the same specimen should be viewed with great suspicion; the patient's blood should be redrawn two weeks after the first and tested together with the first specimen. If the first specimen was drawn very early after infection, the patient should have highly positive IgG and IgM antibodies in the second sample. If the IgG is negative and the IgM is positive in both specimens, the IgM result should be considered to be a false positive and the patient should be considered to be not infected. In the second situation, a second specimen should be drawn and both specimens submitted together to a reference lab which employs a different IgM testing system for confirmation. Prior to initiation of patient management for acute toxoplasmosis, all IgG/IgM positives should be submitted to a reference lab for IgG avidity testing.
If the patient is pregnant, and IgG/IgM positive, an IgG avidity test should be performed. A high avidity result in the first 12 to 16 weeks of pregnancy (time dependent upon the commercial test kit) essentially rules out an infection acquired during gestation. A low IgG avidity result should not be interpreted as indicating recent infection, because some individuals have persistent low IgG avidity for many months after infection. Suspected recent infection in a pregnant woman should be confirmed prior to intervention by having samples tested at a toxoplasmosis reference laboratory. If the patient has clinical illness compatible with toxoplasmosis but the IgG titer is low, a follow-up titer two to three weeks later should show an increase in antibody titer if the illness is due to acute toxoplasmosis, assuming the host is not severely immunocompromised.
anda77 spune:
pineapple, am gasit 2 chestii cu valorile, dar cred ca mai rau te incurca... eu n-am putut sa ma lamuresc.
Serologic Diagnosis of Acquired Toxoplasma infection in pregnant woman: A rising titer is diagnostic. However, serologic test titers (e.g., dye or IFA) may have already reached their peak at the time the first serum is obtained for testing. Any patient with dye test or IFA test titers of higher than 300 IU/ml or 1:1000 and an IgM IFA test titer of 1:80 or higher or a capture IgM ELISA titer of 2 or higher must be presumed to have recently acquired infection with Toxoplasma until proved otherwise.
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Q: I am twelve weeks pregnant and just received the results of my toxoplasmosis screen. They show that my IGG level is zero, indicating no immunity, but my IgM levels are .62, indicating possible exposure in the past 12 months. (Our cat is an indoor cat and I have not been changing the litter box since I've known I was pregnant.)If I have a chronic infection is my baby at risk? I understand that if my baby was infected there are possible problems. What are the dangers?
R:
In order for the baby to be affected, you must acquire the infection during pregnancy. And even if a mother gets the infection during the pregnancy, the risk is not 100 percent that the baby will be infected. (It is more in the range of 50 percent.) The virulence of the infection is greater, the earlier it is contracted.
Affected infants are usually of low birth weight, with enlarged livers, jaundice and anemia. The neurological diseases involve convulsions, calcifications in certain areas of the brain and hydrocephaly or microcephaly (small head size with resulting retardation). Some of the babies are deaf and some develop blindness.
Most authorities agree that Toxoplasmosis tests are difficult to interpret and assistance should be sought from the CDC or the National Institutes of Health.
The most accurate confirmation of active infection is a rise in IgG titer in two spaced but simultaneously tested serum samples. Very high titers, greater than 1:512, probably indicate current or recent infection. One study reported increased deafness and retardation in this group.
I would try my best not to worry as the chances of current infection would be quite low. Actually, it is surprising that a cat lover has no immunity. Maybe the titer was not correct.
bb_alinus spune:
Xandra,
eu zic ca daca tu mananci bine si iti iei toate vitaminele din alimente ai putea sa renunti la vitamine ( cere parerea medicului inainte), eu am renuntat fara nici un regret sau frica pentru ca prea tremuram toata de foame iar eu am un servici care nu imi permite sa mananc cand vreau eu! Si unde mai pui ca nici nu ma simteam bine, dupa fiecare devalizare a frigiderului ma simteam aiurea....
La 13 sapt cat am acuma m-am ingrasat cam 2 kg , iar ieri am fost la eco de 3 luni si doc gineco l-a masurat pe bb din toate pozitiile si unghiurile, si l-a declarat "in norme", chiar a zis ca e perfect ( iar eu m-am umflat in pene si i-am raspuns ca e normal, doar e al meu:)) Sper ca bebitul meu sa o tina tot asa ....
Bafta la voi mamici,
Alina 13+
dienutagraviduta spune:
Buna fetele !!!!!!!
Pentru cele cu greturi, veste bunaaaaaaaa!
Se termina, fetelor, da, se termina! Ieri am avut o zi cam proasta dimineata, simteam asa, ceva greata, si am baut ceai de sunatoare; m-am simtit extraordinar de bine toata ziua
(si a fost una infecta, cu 4 sedinte a cate 1 ora , dintre care ultima de la 5.30 la 6.30), asa ca, atunci cand am ajuns acasa m-am apucat de curatenie, tot, aspirator, dat cu mopul, vase, spalat baia si pisika, dupa cre am facut si niste shaorma, si la 8.30, cand a venit sotul meu, dupa ce am mancat, ne-am retras in dormitor
... ce sa mai spun, am fost wonder-woman...
Dimineata asta am fost ca o floricica
, m-a frecat sefu la greu... si n-am nici pe naiba...
Stiti, eu scriu randurile astea, asa de incurajare, si sper sa nu revin maine - poimaine plostita foc... sper sa nu revina greata, ca zau ma simt bine, si inainte de abea ma ridicam din pat, nu faceam prin casa absolut nimic, dar poate asa suntem noi, astea mai tinere, rezistente si ne adaptam repede...
Apropo, cine mai este de varsta mea pe aici ?! Eu fac 22 de ani in iunie...
Va pup,
Dienutagraviduta 10+ si bebelush mic-mic
anda77 spune:
m-am apucat sa calculez cateva sarcini ca sa invat sa calculez corect sarcina mea si:
bb_alinus, eu am numarat zilele de la um-ul tau, 03.02.2005, si-mi iese ca ai 14 saptamani si 1 zi, dar tu ai scris 13+. nu scriem 14+?
eu propun sa ne scriem varstele in listuta. ce ziceti? asa ca sa stim cine e mai sprinten si cine e mai intelept, dar poate sa nu fie direct proportional cu varsta
andreea 9+