Efectele nefaste ale TV-ului si calculatorului....

Efectele nefaste ale TV-ului si calculatorului.... | Autor: scarmanus

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...asupra dezvoltarii copiilor in special. Iata o carte in acest sens pe care o caut. Dar nu din auzite, ci din citite va rog.
Am fost absenta mult timp si nu sunt sigura ca am postat unde trebuie, moderatorii sa-l puie unde cred de cuviinta subiectul de fata daca nu e la locul lui.

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Sa ma ierti ca nu raspund la subiect... sper ca vei primi cateva titluri de carti.

Nu vrei sa vezi un documentar american despre copii, TV/computer s.a.m.d. si consumerism (acopera doar o parte din ceea ce cauti)? Pe mine m-a socat, l-am urmarit, pe alocuri, cu lacrimi in ochi. Suna patetic , vezi mai bine trailerul (in dreapta, "Consuming kids"):

http://www.mediaed.org/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?key=134&preadd=action

sau filmul in intregime, daca te intereseaza:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uUU7cjfcdM



Si putin la subiect... am citit doua carti scrise de psihologul american David Elkind despre puterea jocului si maturizarea fortata a copiilor, are acolo cateva capitole care se refera la TV, statistici, studii, urmari...

La tzara americana (poze)


"Un fluture (de noapte) pe zi si alte " (tot poze)

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[size=1]Nu vrei sa vezi un documentar american despre copii, TV/computer s.a.m.d. si consumerism (acopera doar o parte din ceea ce cauti)? Pe mine m-a socat, l-am urmarit, pe alocuri, cu lacrimi in ochi. Suna patetic , vezi mai bine trailerul (in dreapta, "Consuming kids"):

http://www.mediaed.org/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?key=134&preadd=action

sau filmul in intregime, daca te intereseaza:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uUU7cjfcdM



Ba da, ba da, ma intereseaza si ai raspuns la subiect. Am uitat sa precizez ca-mi trebuie in engleza, pentru mine, dar mai cu sema pentru jumatatea mea. Ma pun pe vizionare.
Pusiche cu multumiri

P.S. CU cat jind ma uit la tara ta americana si de-ai sti de cate ori imi zbura gandul la tine si la viata ta de la tara...

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Eu nu stiu ce sa-ti raspund, dar vreau sa te salut si sa-ti spun ca-mi pare bine ca te-ai intors si cu bb presupun!Felicitari!

De mancare
Dulciuri
Din gradina mea

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Si eu ca si Valentina m-am gandit la bebe, da' mi-a fost rusine sa te intreb . Nu te trag de limba.

Eh, as vrea sa fie... tzara canadiana, tarziu pt. ea, acum, poate sa-i ajute Dumnezeu pe copii.

Pe mine ma intereseaza subiectul (inca...), dar sub un aspect diferit (in timp crescand copiii au aparut alte semne de intrebare; sunt convinsa in continuare ca ne e bine fara TV).
Stai pe aici , facem schimb de idei, info, incurajare , TVul este deja depasit.

P.S. Gasesti pe Net tot felul de articole scrise de David Elkind (cred ca inclusiv cartea despre joc, in intregime), merge, in general, pe ideea de a incuraja copilul sa se joace, nu neaparat de a elimina "media". Daca te intereseaza articole in engleza (si alti autori/cercetatori, psihologi), am pastrat pt. mine cateva, iti pot da linkurile.

La tzara americana (poze)


"Un fluture (de noapte) pe zi si alte " (tot poze)

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Multumesc, Valentina, esti draguta .
Pune linkurile ML, sunt interesata. M-m uitat la filmul ala si mi s-a facut paru' maciuca. A fost o confirmare la ce stiam si nu e greu pentru nimeni sa deduca, de altfel, cred. Eu nu sunt nici pentru joc prin media, sunt pentru a le da copiilor libertatea de a-si inventa propriile jocuri. Adica scoate-i afara si da-le pace , cum ar zice Tom Hodgekinson (The Idle Parent).

Da, fetelor, am o copila de 4 luni

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Doamne, Doamne ce veste minunata!!! Bravo, draga mea, ce norocoasa sa aiba o astfel de mamica!

Am sa le caut, linkurile...
Si pe mine m-a speriat filmul, cu atat mai mult cu cat uit ce se perinda pe la TV, am renuntat la el de 10 ani, exact inainte de a naste primul copil (avem DVD, selectionam filmele, mai rau este cu computerul, dar cred, tot mai bine decat cu TVul, ar fi multe de povestit...)

Nu, Elkind nu-i pentru joc prin media, este exact cum descrii tu, joc liber, nestructurat, chiar exista o miscare aici "Nici un copil lasat inauntru", sloganul ales poate ca sa-i dea peste nas lui Bush cu aerele lui .

La tzara americana (poze)


"Un fluture (de noapte) pe zi si alte " (tot poze)

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Hei, s-au adunat prea multe, citeste ce/cat vrei...

Despre media (teveu, filme, carti, reviste, muzica):

http://books.google.com/books?id=zvyT7Mi4Od0C&pg=PA80&lpg=PA80&dq=David+elkind,+watch+television,+kids&source=web&ots=qFVSbTW_Jq&sig=_z1jSXzKHpzLd7aNItxBLVE7FUc&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct=result#v=onepage&q&f=false

Un articol mai vechi despre... "incotro copilarie?", joc, consumerism:

http://www.frankfuredi.com/news/childofourtime-20050723.shtml

Creativitate, joc, imaginatie:

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04228/361969-84.stm

Empatie/comunicare/copii/tehnologie:

http://www.micheleborba.com/blog/2011/04/10/is-a-plugged-in-world-reducing-childrens-empathy/

Jocuri video:

http://www.micheleborba.com/blog/2011/06/27/kids-teens-parenting-and-video-games/

Creier/tehnologie:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-565207/Modern-technology-changing-way-brains-work-says-neuroscientist.html

Texting/adolescenti:

http://borderzine.com/2009/10/negative-aspects-of-text-messaging/


La tzara americana (poze)


"Un fluture (de noapte) pe zi si alte " (tot poze)

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Nu stiu daca mai treci pe aici, m-am gandit la tine aseara cand am citit poezia asta.
O recunosti ? Mie tare mi-e drag autorul!


The most important thing we've learned,
So far as children are concerned,
Is never, NEVER, NEVER let
Them near your television set --
Or better still, just don't install
The idiotic thing at all.
In almost every house we've been,
We've watched them gaping at the screen.
They loll and slop and lounge about,
And stare until their eyes pop out.
(Last week in someone's place we saw
A dozen eyeballs on the floor.)
They sit and stare and stare and sit
Until they're hypnotised by it,
Until they're absolutely drunk
With all that shocking ghastly junk.
Oh yes, we know it keeps them still,
They don't climb out the window sill,
They never fight or kick or punch,
They leave you free to cook the lunch
And wash the dishes in the sink --
But did you ever stop to think,
To wonder just exactly what
This does to your beloved tot?
IT ROTS THE SENSE IN THE HEAD!
IT KILLS IMAGINATION DEAD!
IT CLOGS AND CLUTTERS UP THE MIND!
IT MAKES A CHILD SO DULL AND BLIND
HE CAN NO LONGER UNDERSTAND
A FANTASY, A FAIRYLAND!
HIS BRAIN BECOMES AS SOFT AS CHEESE!
HIS POWERS OF THINKING RUST AND FREEZE!
HE CANNOT THINK -- HE ONLY SEES!
'All right!' you'll cry. 'All right!' you'll say,
'But if we take the set away,
What shall we do to entertain
Our darling children? Please explain!'
We'll answer this by asking you,
'What used the darling ones to do?
'How used they keep themselves contented
Before this monster was invented?'
Have you forgotten? Don't you know?
We'll say it very loud and slow:
THEY ... USED ... TO ... READ! They'd READ and READ,
AND READ and READ, and then proceed
To READ some more. Great Scott! Gadzooks!
One half their lives was reading books!
The nursery shelves held books galore!
Books cluttered up the nursery floor!
And in the bedroom, by the bed,
More books were waiting to be read!
Such wondrous, fine, fantastic tales
Of dragons, gypsies, queens, and whales
And treasure isles, and distant shores
Where smugglers rowed with muffled oars,
And pirates wearing purple pants,
And sailing ships and elephants,
And cannibals crouching 'round the pot,
Stirring away at something hot.
(It smells so good, what can it be?
Good gracious, it's Penelope.)
The younger ones had Beatrix Potter
With Mr. Tod, the dirty rotter,
And Squirrel Nutkin, Pigling Bland,
And Mrs. Tiggy-Winkle and-
Just How The Camel Got His Hump,
And How the Monkey Lost His Rump,
And Mr. Toad, and bless my soul,
There's Mr. Rat and Mr. Mole-
Oh, books, what books they used to know,
Those children living long ago!
So please, oh please, we beg, we pray,
Go throw your TV set away,
And in its place you can install
A lovely bookshelf on the wall.
Then fill the shelves with lots of books,
Ignoring all the dirty looks,
The screams and yells, the bites and kicks,
And children hitting you with sticks-
Fear not, because we promise you
That, in about a week or two
Of having nothing else to do,
They'll now begin to feel the need
Of having something to read.
And once they start -- oh boy, oh boy!
You watch the slowly growing joy
That fills their hearts. They'll grow so keen
They'll wonder what they'd ever seen
In that ridiculous machine,
That nauseating, foul, unclean,
Repulsive television screen!
And later, each and every kid
Will love you more for what you did.


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ML, cat te iubesc eu pe tine ! Comoara, esti, nu alta, mersi de toate!

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