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Link direct catre acest raspuns mariamunteanu spune:

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citat din mesajul lui ioanaiub

chiar ma gandeam ce spune acum Emma Nicholson, ca a sarit ca arsa cand a aflat ca romii isi casatoresc copiii la varste "fragede" ... mai bine s-ar uita si in "ograda" ei



Compari mere cu struguri. La tigani e traditie, pe cand acestea sunt accidente.

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Ce sa zicem de copii, ca uite cum gandeste tatal baiatului: " Dennis said: "I’m taking Alfie to London with me. I want to sell his story because I’ve heard people can get us loads of money for Alfie’s story".
Dar nimeni nu a scris nimic de fetitza nou nascuta, cum va creste ea, in ce mediu, ce va intelege ea? Ca la 15 ani tre' sa-si faca datoria fatza de bugetul familiei si sa faca repede in copil, sa intre alocatia?

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Xio,

Cred ca ti-ai raspuns singura la intrebare...chiar daca parintii copilei nu ar fi stiut ca cei 2 pusti fac sex, ar fi putut deduce posibilitatea din faptul ca si sora lui Chantelle nascuse tot la 13 ani!

Am gasit un articol excelent al incomparabilei Melanie Phillips aici http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1146083/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-Alfie-Chantelle-sheer-madness-sex-education-teaches-morality.html si am hotarat sa traduc partea esentiala:



CHANTELLE, ALFIE SI NEBUNIA EDUCATIEI SEXUALE IN CADRUL CAREIA NU SE SUFLA O VORBA DESPRE MORALITATE



Copiii cu copii sunt condamnati la o semi-viata de copilarie adulta si maturitate infantilizata, dezvoltarea fireasca fiindu-le catastrofal afectata.

Frecventa cu care se dizolva familiile poarta o greutate cruciala in aceasta poveste. Dizolvarea familiala este asociata cu activitate sexuala prematura, creandu-se un cerc vicios de fragmentare familiala si promiscuitate la adolescenti. Exista din ce in ce mai multe victime ale acestui ciclu de abandon, haos emotional si raul generat de acestea.

Dar acest lucru este la randul sau doar parte dintr-un spectru mai larg de dizolvare a intelegerii morale fundamentale care statea odata la baza societatii.

S-au pierdut aproape complet insesi notiunile de infranare si limite comportamentale, sub presiunea liberalismului narcisist si in urma adoptarii culturii ajutoarelor de la stat, care feresc oamenii de consecintele propriilor lor actiuni.

Intelligentsia liberala a promovat cu agresivitate ideea ca cele mai rele lucruri pe lumea asta sunt stigma si rusinea. Prin urmare, conceptul de ilegitimitate a fost desfiintat, mamele singure au fost coplesite cu ajutoare de la stat si s-a interzis orice linie de discutie in care se expuneau avantajele casatoriei si ale infranarii sexuale, pe motiv ca este bazata pe ‘prejudecati’.

Cu toate limitele/indrumarile comportamentale etichetate cu titlu injositor drept ‘moralizatoare’, sexul a inceput sa fie tratat exclusiv ca o activitate recreationala lipsita de orice dimensiune spirituala.

Pe masura ce parintii isi construiau adevarate cariere din parteneriatele sexuale in serie, punand dorintele lor pe termen scurt pe primul loc si astfel comportandu-se efectiv precum niste copii, nu au mai dorit sa se deranjeze asumandu-si responsabilitatea propriilor odrasle si au inceput sa le trateze ca si cum acestea ar fi fost la randul lor adulti.

Tendinta a fost validata de modul de abordare a educatiei sexuale si educatiei privind contraceptia in scoli si institutii din sistemul sanitar public. Se pleca de la premiza ca acesti copii trebuie tratati ca niste quasi-adulti capabili de a face propriile lor alegeri de viata. In realitate, copiii acestia aveau nevoie de ceea ce au nevoie toti copiii- limite ferme si consecventa in implementarea lor, care sa-i fi invatat ca sexul este o activitate rezervata adultilor.

In loc de asta, au fost invatati sa trateze sexul cam ca bungee-jumping-ul sau paragliding-ul: sa se distreze facand sex, dar sa isi ia precautii pentru a evita ‘accidentele’. ‘Accidentele’ insa au fost definite aproape exclusiv ca sarcina in adolescenta. Copiilor li s-a spus ca bolile cu transmitere sexuala pot fi tratate, si nici macar nu s-a mentionat posibilitatea traumei emotionale cauzate de activitatea sexuala prematura.

Partial, enormitatea acestei abordari provine din convingerea perdanta ca nu exista alternativa la raul pe care il constituie activitatea sexuala prematura. Sexul prematur nu se poate evita, deci singurul lucru de facut este sa ii fie mitigate efectele cele mai rele.

Dar aceasta atitudine a fost insotita de o incercare deliberata de a distruge insasi notiunea de respectabilitate. Nu doar se inchid ochii la nivel oficial in fata incalcarii legii in ceea ce priveste varsta legala de consimtamant, dar educatia sexuala vizeaza adolescentii si preadolescentii cu o agenda de libertinaj ce constituie un atac direct asupra valorilor fundamentale ale societatii.

Ca urmare, manualele de educatie sexuala se lanseaza intr-o prezentare completa a pozitiilor sexuale, posibilitatilor de combinare si perversiunilor. Mare parte din acest material arata ca o propaganda pentru licenta sexuala; anumite parti au un continut atat de exploatator incat frizeaza coruperea sexuala.


Textul in engleza, pentru cine ar fi interesat:


Children who bear children are condemned to a kind of half-life of adultified childhood and then infantilised adulthood, with a catastrophic disruption of their normal development to maturity.

The appalling rate of family breakdown is a crucial part of this story. It is linked to premature sexual activity, creating a vicious cycle of family fragmentation and teenage promiscuity. More and more individuals are being locked into this cycle of abandonment, emotional chaos and harm.

But that in turn is part of a wider and deeper breakdown of the fundamental moral understanding that once kept our society together.
There has been a profound loss of the very notions of self-restraint and boundaries of behaviour, promoted from the top by narcissistic liberals and funded at the bottom by welfare benefits which cushion people from the consequences of their actions.

The liberal intelligentsia pushed the idea that the worst things in the world were stigma and shame. Illegitimacy was accordingly abolished, lone mothers provided with welfare benefits and any talk about the advantages to children from marriage and sexual continence was to be banned as 'judgmental'.

With all constraints on behaviour vilified as 'moralising', sex became treated merely as a pleasurable pastime devoid of any spiritual dimension.

As parents careered through serial sexual partnerships, putting their own short-term desires first and effectively behaving like children, they no longer wanted to be bothered with taking responsibility for their own offspring and so started treating them as if they were grown-up.

This was massively reinforced by the approach to sex education and contraception by schools and public health professionals, who treated children as quasi-adults capable of making their own life choices. What they actually needed, as all children do, was firm and consistent boundaries which taught them that sex was properly an adult activity.

Instead, they were taught to treat sex a bit like bungee-jumping or paragliding - to have fun doing it, but to take precautions to avoid getting hurt. But 'hurt' was defined almost entirely as teenage pregnancy. Children were told that sexually transmitted diseases could be treated, and there was no acknowledgement of the emotional harm of premature sexual activity.

In part, this arose from the defeatist belief that there was no alternative but to go along with the harm done to children by premature sexual activity. Underage sex was unavoidable, it was thought, and so the only thing to do was mitigate its worst effects.

But this attitude was accompanied by a deliberate attempt to destroy the notion of respectability. Not only are official blind eyes turned to breaches of the legal age of consent, but sex education actually targets teenagers and underage children with a direct attack on society's fundamental values by promoting a libertarian agenda.

So sex education teaching manuals set out the full range of sexual positions, partnering and perversions. Much of it looks like propaganda for sexual licence; some of it is so exploitative it verges on the predatory.


http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/







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Pana la urma s-a dovedit ca nu el este tatal daca am inteles eu bine de la stiri?

Cait
Home is where heart is...

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Intr-adevar,Cait,s-a dovedit ca Alfie nu e tatal micutei .

Life is something precious so enjoy it and try to take what s good from it!

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Asa este, Alfie nu e tatal.

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citat din mesajul lui Adina Iulia

Mi-a spus cineva (deci nu stiu 100% sigur) ca in UK li se distribuie prezervative copiilor in scoli, in mod gratuit, de la varsta de 12-13 ani.

Se pare ca inceperea vietii sexuale la aceasta varsta nu mai este o exceptie, ci o regula. Si daca e asa, desi nu m-am acomodat inca cu ideea asta, sper s-o fac pana ajunge fii-mea la varsta respectiva.



Adina,

Nu esti un spectator pasiv la viata copilului tau. Si sunt muuuuuuuuult mai multe lucruri pe care le poti face din vreme in loc sa 'te obisnuiesti cu ideea' pur si simplu.

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