pro si contra folosirii cuptorului cu microunde
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BellaDonna spune:
NU-folosec cuptorul cu microunde, dar mi-am cumparat un cuptosas micut tot pt incalzit cu convectie micut nu e la fel dar ....sa nu folosesc cuptorul de la aragaz care e prea mare pt ce am nevoie
Elle_seb spune:
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citat din mesajul lui Letitia1
Poate vii si cu argumente in sensul asta. De ce nu? Eu folosesc la incalzit si nu as renunta la el, numai fiindca asa s-a zvonit in tirg. Pai si aerul care il respiram e nociv la urma urmei. Ce-ar trebui sa facem? |
Poate ar trebui sa incerci sa te documentezi si tu mai bine. Atitudinea asta de "totul in jurul nostru e nociv, nu mai bine ne vedem de viata la urma-urmei" nu este deloc in avantajul nostru si al copiilor nostri. Avem capacitatea sa ne protejam mai mult de aspectele nocive din jur, daca stim sa deschidem ochii si sa fim un pic mai mult decat pasivi.
lucialu spune:
m- am linistit. Vedeti ca exista cuptoare pe curent care pot incalzi/ decongela fara microunde. Am comparat ce as vrea eu cu un cuptor cu microunde si nu au treaba, micoundefree
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sunnyday07 spune:
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citat din mesajul lui Elle_seb
Poate ar trebui sa incerci sa te documentezi si tu mai bine. Atitudinea asta de "totul in jurul nostru e nociv, nu mai bine ne vedem de viata la urma-urmei" nu este deloc in avantajul nostru si al copiilor nostri. Avem capacitatea sa ne protejam mai mult de aspectele nocive din jur, daca stim sa deschidem ochii si sa fim un pic mai mult decat pasivi. |
Pai Elle, spune-ne si noua de ce sunt nocive mancarurile incalzite/gatite la microunde.
Elle_seb spune:
In Dr. Lita Lee’s book, “Health Effects of Microwave Radiation - Microwave Ovens,” and in the March and September 1991 issues of Earthletter, she stated that every microwave oven leaks electro-magnetic radiation, harms food and converts substances cooked in it to dangerous organ-toxic and carcinogenic products. Micro ovens are far more harmful than previously imagined. Listed are the many findings of the German and Russian investigators. Here are just a few:
Cancer Causing Effects — Creation of a ‘binding effect’ to radioactivity in the atmosphere, creation of cancer-causing agents within protein hydrolysate compounds, malfunctions within the lymphatic systems, higher percentage of cancerous cells within the blood serum, cancer-causing free radicals, stomach and intestinal cancerous growths, with a gradual breakdown of the function of the digestive and excretive systems.
Decrease In Food Value — Microwave exposure caused significant decreases in the nutritive value of all foods researched. There was a decrease in bioavailability of B-complex vitamins, vitamin C, vitamin E, essential minerals and lipotropics in all foods, a loss of 60 to 90% of the vital energy field of all tested foods, and a marked acceleration of structural disintegration in all foods.
Biological Effects of Exposure — Breakdown of the human “life-energy field,” degeneration and circuit breakdowns within the front portion of the brain where thought and higher functions reside, loss of balance, long term cumulative loss of vital energy and long-lasting residual effects.
In America, neither universities nor the federal government have conducted any tests concerning the effects on our bodies from eating microwaved foods. Isn’t that odd?
Ten reasons to throw out your Microwave oven (taken from research):
Continually eating food processed from a microwave oven causes long term, permanent, brain damage by ‘shorting out” electrical impulses in the brain (de-polarizing or de-magnetizing the brain tissue).
The human body cannot metabolize (breakdown) the unknown by-products created in microwaved food.
Male and female hormone production is shut down and/or altered by continually eating microwaved foods.
The effects of microwaved food by-products are residual (long term, permanent) within the human body.
Minerals, vitamins, and nutrients of all microwaved food is reduced or altered so that the human body gets little or no benefit, or the human body absorbs altered compounds that cannot be broken down.
The minerals in vegetables are altered into cancerous free radicals when cooked in microwave ovens.
Microwaved foods cause stomach and intestinal cancerous growths (tumors). This may explain the rapid increased rate of colon cancer in America.
The prolonged eating of microwaved foods causes cancerous cells to increase in human blood.
Continual ingestion of microwaved food causes immune system deficiencies through lymph gland and serum alterations.
Eating microwaved food causes loss of memory, concentration, emotional instability, and a decrease of intelligence.
{Health Freedom Resources, Public Awareness Announcement #1, June 2000, Radiation Ovens, The Proven Dangers of Microwaves.” Also information from the Forensic Research Document, prepared by William P. Kopp, A.R.E.C. Research Operations. TO61-7R10/10-77F05. Written by Anthony Wayne and Lawrence Newell. healthfree.com, Apr. 2003} Author's comment: The use of artificial microwave transmissions for subliminal psychological control, ‘brainwashing,’ has also been proven. Clinical experiments have been written up by Drs. Luria and Perov.
Sursa:
http://www.allnaturalhealth.us/june_russell_microwaving.htm
Evident ca sunt sute de articole care vorbesc despre asta, s-au masurat parametrii radiatiilor, care la un cuptor cu microunde un functiune, sunt de 40-50 de ori mai mari decat valorile considerate nepericuloase pentru organism.
Se considera ca radiatiile cuprinse intre 0,5 si 2 miliGaussi (mG), nu sunt periculoase pentru sanatatea noastra. 0,5 reprezinta de fapt valoarea magnetismului natural al planetei. Tot ce depaseste valoarea de 2 mG devine periculos. Un cuptor cu microunde emite in fata, la 30 cm, in timpul functionarii = 40 – 50 mG. Tot in fata, la 30 cm, scos din priza = 4 – 5 mG.
Sursa:
http://ligiapop.com/2012/04/25/cum-ne-afecteaza-radiatiile-electromagnetice/
Nah, acuma vor veni unii si altii sa zica ca este literatura, fictiune, tabloid, etc, dar realitatea este ca suntem bombardati cu radiatii electromagnetice si alte tipuri de radiatii din toate partile. Unele dintre ele nu le putem controla, insa in privinta altora, putem alege sa ne ferim de ele, nefolosind sursele respective de radiatii.
Letitia1 spune:
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citat din mesajul lui Elle_seb
Poate ar trebui sa incerci sa te documentezi si tu mai bine. Atitudinea asta de "totul in jurul nostru e nociv, nu mai bine ne vedem de viata la urma-urmei" nu este deloc in avantajul nostru si al copiilor nostri. Avem capacitatea sa ne protejam mai mult de aspectele nocive din jur, daca stim sa deschidem ochii si sa fim un pic mai mult decat pasivi. |
Eu m-am documentat bine, stai linistita.
Deci care ar fi argumentele tare contra?
Din nici un articol nu reiese clar cit de nociv este cupotorul cu microunde, cita vreme e folosit corespunzator si in moderatie.
Letitia1 spune:
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| citat din mesajul lui Elle_seb In Dr. Lita Lee’s book, “Health Effects of Microwave Radiation - Microwave Ovens,” and in the March and September 1991 issues of Earthletter, she stated that every microwave oven leaks electro-magnetic radiation, harms food and converts substances cooked in it to dangerous organ-toxic and carcinogenic products. Micro ovens are far more harmful than previously imagined. Listed are the many findings of the German and Russian investigators. Here are just a few: Cancer Causing Effects — Creation of a ‘binding effect’ to radioactivity in the atmosphere, creation of cancer-causing agents within protein hydrolysate compounds, malfunctions within the lymphatic systems, higher percentage of cancerous cells within the blood serum, cancer-causing free radicals, stomach and intestinal cancerous growths, with a gradual breakdown of the function of the digestive and excretive systems. Decrease In Food Value — Microwave exposure caused significant decreases in the nutritive value of all foods researched. There was a decrease in bioavailability of B-complex vitamins, vitamin C, vitamin E, essential minerals and lipotropics in all foods, a loss of 60 to 90% of the vital energy field of all tested foods, and a marked acceleration of structural disintegration in all foods. Biological Effects of Exposure — Breakdown of the human “life-energy field,” degeneration and circuit breakdowns within the front portion of the brain where thought and higher functions reside, loss of balance, long term cumulative loss of vital energy and long-lasting residual effects. In America, neither universities nor the federal government have conducted any tests concerning the effects on our bodies from eating microwaved foods. Isn’t that odd? Ten reasons to throw out your Microwave oven (taken from research): Continually eating food processed from a microwave oven causes long term, permanent, brain damage by ‘shorting out” electrical impulses in the brain (de-polarizing or de-magnetizing the brain tissue). The human body cannot metabolize (breakdown) the unknown by-products created in microwaved food. Male and female hormone production is shut down and/or altered by continually eating microwaved foods. The effects of microwaved food by-products are residual (long term, permanent) within the human body. Minerals, vitamins, and nutrients of all microwaved food is reduced or altered so that the human body gets little or no benefit, or the human body absorbs altered compounds that cannot be broken down. The minerals in vegetables are altered into cancerous free radicals when cooked in microwave ovens. Microwaved foods cause stomach and intestinal cancerous growths (tumors). This may explain the rapid increased rate of colon cancer in America. The prolonged eating of microwaved foods causes cancerous cells to increase in human blood. Continual ingestion of microwaved food causes immune system deficiencies through lymph gland and serum alterations. Eating microwaved food causes loss of memory, concentration, emotional instability, and a decrease of intelligence. {Health Freedom Resources, Public Awareness Announcement #1, June 2000, Radiation Ovens, The Proven Dangers of Microwaves.” Also information from the Forensic Research Document, prepared by William P. Kopp, A.R.E.C. Research Operations. TO61-7R10/10-77F05. Written by Anthony Wayne and Lawrence Newell. healthfree.com, Apr. 2003} Author's comment: The use of artificial microwave transmissions for subliminal psychological control, ‘brainwashing,’ has also been proven. Clinical experiments have been written up by Drs. Luria and Perov. Sursa: http://www.allnaturalhealth.us/june_russell_microwaving.htm Evident ca sunt sute de articole care vorbesc despre asta, s-au masurat parametrii radiatiilor, care la un cuptor cu microunde un functiune, sunt de 40-50 de ori mai mari decat valorile considerate nepericuloase pentru organism. Se considera ca radiatiile cuprinse intre 0,5 si 2 miliGaussi (mG), nu sunt periculoase pentru sanatatea noastra. 0,5 reprezinta de fapt valoarea magnetismului natural al planetei. Tot ce depaseste valoarea de 2 mG devine periculos. Un cuptor cu microunde emite in fata, la 30 cm, in timpul functionarii = 40 – 50 mG. Tot in fata, la 30 cm, scos din priza = 4 – 5 mG. Sursa: http://ligiapop.com/2012/04/25/cum-ne-afecteaza-radiatiile-electromagnetice/ Nah, acuma vor veni unii si altii sa zica ca este literatura, fictiune, tabloid, etc, dar realitatea este ca suntem bombardati cu radiatii electromagnetice si alte tipuri de radiatii din toate partile. Unele dintre ele nu le putem controla, insa in privinta altora, putem alege sa ne ferim de ele, nefolosind sursele respective de radiatii. |
Asta mi se pare o exagerare uriasa. Ar trebui sa locuim practic cu capul in microunde ca sa patim ce scrie aici. In vest cuptorul cu microunde a aparut in 1967, deci ma gidesc ca ar trebui sa fie multi morti sau pe cale, daca ar fi asa nociv. Sigur ca daca mincam numai microwaved food (deci gatita la microunde), bine nu o sa ne fie, dar sa incalzesti mincare o data pe zi nu e nici un bai.
Elle_seb spune:
Letitia, esti libera sa faci ce vrei cu mancarea ta, poti s-o prajesti pe antenele de la vodafone daca vrei. Exista un liber arbitru, care este dreptul fiecaruia. Eu aleg sa nu-l folosesc pentru ca stiu ca nu este benefic si gata.
Eu cand stau langa un cuptor cu microunde in functiune, mi se ridica la propriu parul pe brate (nu va imaginati ca am prea mult, acuma ) si am o senzatie de electrizare in corp. Brr...
maria_alexia spune:
pai tocmai asta e ideea: sa nu stai pe-aproape in timp ce e pornit, caci e posibil ca aparatul sa nu izoleze chiar perfect undele electromagnetice de exterior.
altfel, mi-e suficient sa ma uit la site-ul de la care ai dat linkurile, si la celelalte care sustin ca nu e 
asa de negru. si la modul de argumentatie...
ingridnen spune:
hm, si eu il folosesc aproape zilnic la incalzit, de vreo 10 ani. De fapt l-am cumparat inainte sa se nasca Cristi, ca sa sterilizam biberoanele (aveam un sterilizator de la Avent, pt biberoane).
Am incercat sa gatesc o singura data un pilaf, nu mi-a placut cum a iesit. De asemeni nu il mai folosesc de multa vreme pentru dezghetat.
Bine, ciorba nu o incalzesc la microunde, dar e de neinlocuit pentru diverse care se "lipesc" de cratita la incalzitul pe aragaz, gen budinca de macaroane, pilaf etc
Mai facem si popcorn din cand in cand.
Numai ce am incalzit spanac pentru mine si piure de cartofi pentru copil...
Ingrid si Cristi 10 ani