cum e in Romania?

monabella spune:

OK, cum am promis hai sa pun impresiile unui neamt care a vazut Ro pt prima data saptamina trecuta. Pt cei care nu stiu engleza e suficient de spsu ca omul care voia sa cumpere o casa in Ro la inceputul sejurului acum considera ca asta e o idee proasta si ca in avion pe drumul de intoarcere s-a intilnit cu un neamt care lucreaza in Ro si care i-a spus ca poate in 140 ani sa ajunga Ro la nivelul la care sint celelalte state...
Personal nu stiu ce ca cred. Am rude acolo; sint legata de ele mai mult poate decit ar trebui. Cind vin in tara nu am timp sa vad relele si bunele. Ma limitez la ce mi se spune.

eu consider sta parere pesimista... (a condus o Toyota veche de 4 ani in caz ca va intrebati)


> But let me tell about a little bout the trip and my
> experience with Romania.
> Firtst the distances are horribel long because the streets
> are a real challenge for a middleeuropean guy like me. I
> drove carefully but all the time I had fear an axle of the
> car could be broken. So it was a little bit heavy to see
> something from the beautiful landscapes especially in
> Transsilvania. I had to concentrate on the streets. My first
> stay had been in the mountains. For example in Sinaia. I
> cannot find that this small town is a beautiful Romanaian
> place. I think I wouldn't stay there for more than some
> hours. You cannot compare this area with other
> wintersportplaces in Europe. Then Brasov was as I had
> expected. I took a hotel with a beautifull over the city,
> took a walk in the pedestrian zone and ate a Pizza. The
> weather was fine, very sunny, and the hotel was quite good
> and not very expensive.
> The text day I rode to Sighisoara, but I took the wrong
> direction - not a wonder if cinsider the bad posters
> and the bad traffi guidance system and the naughty
> navigationsystem I took with me from Germany. No chance to
> let it work in Romania. My fault that I didn't ckeck the
> software if there would be a map ogf Romaia inside. I only
> get the notice of the distance to the next town, and that
> was it. I was too stingy to buy me a map. So I trusted on my
> ability to see where the sunh is going during the day. So I
> took the street to Fagaras direction to Sibiu and justz
> before Gafaras I turned right and was on a real small
> street. So it tooks a long time to go to Sighisoara - and
> the whole afternoon it was raining cats and dogs and workers
> had opened the headerplaster in the old town, so that the
> tourist me including walked over a totally dirty street. It
> was really no fun, but when I see the photos I did the best
> of it - and the little pension I was in was a quiet place to
> rest.
> Next morning I went to Sibiu over Agnita. I enjoyed the
> beautifull countryside saw 7 storks near the street walking
> in the green, had many impressions of the people. The nearer
> I came to Sibiu the streets would be better, and looking
> backwards I would say, it would have been the best to be in
> Sibiu for the whole week. Nice town, nice marketplaces, well
> renovated houses in the old town. I waled into the
> Brukental-Museum for to see great European Painters: Van
> Breughel, Tizian, Rembrandt, Grigorescu of course. Very
> impressive. I bought a book bout the exposition (in Romanian
> language)
> The next time I think. On evry evening I heard a concert in
> the Evangelic church: the first evening with organ and a
> female duett (Felix Mendelsohn-Bartholdy) and the second one
> the best Barockconcert I ever heard (two Americans together
> with four Romanian artists). Absolutely astonishing to joky
> prices. Perhaps the best experience I had in Romania.
> The way back to Bucharesti was the expected long trip: 4
> hours to the town on better streets, then 1 1/2 hours in the
> capital reching the airport at 2 o'clock.
> In the whole Romania was an important experience, but I
> think the idea to buy a house in the country wasn't a good
> idea. I think it will takes a long time for Your country to
> develop. One guy from Germany I met in the airplane now
> working for the European Union as a helper for the
> taxdepartment of Romania for one year said 140 years and he
> repeated a common joke he had heard that the development has
> something to to weith the lenght of the highway in a
> country. Okay, it won't last 140 years I think, but ion the
> whole not less thasn 50 or 60 years to get a middle European
> standard. I see how long it tooks to arise Eastern Germany
> to an acceptable level. Now, after 20 years the
> infrastructure is in a real goof condition - perhaps the
> most modern in whole Europe, the glascable, the streets and
> so on - but the most I think will takes to change the minds
> of the people and the way they handle their work and their
> evrydaylife. As I went to restaurants in very town I was
> there are too many people trying to serve the customers. It
> cannot be that in the morning at ten a clock there are five
> people in a restaurant for to serve one person. It is not
> effective to have 8 workers trying to repair the streets and
> only 3 of them are working. I think not very different from
> the socialistic times. Additionally not so less people I met
> in the service had not been so friendly as they should be.
> Perhaps their motivation is not very hight, perhaps by the
> fact that their income is too low and their circumstances of
> life are too bad. Some young guys I met saw the situation
> very clear, but they seemed to be a little bit hopeless,
> because they noticed that the change is running very slow.
> But they have had that glimmer in the eye one need to try
> the best.
> I talked Tina bout my experiences. I think perhaps she
> would go to Romania next year, but she said that the weather
> must be much colder. Perhaps ins spring or in harvest. And I
> will see what will happen in Bucharest in cultural things.
> ....
>
> --
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
> W.F.
>
>

XIO spune:

Bird , era o gluma care circula pe la noi prin tara in care se pocea intentionat cuvantul pronuntandu-se " loo-seer".
Si nu pot sa nu remarc ca in acceptiunea ta cat de roman esti tine de gramatica altei limbi. Da' e ok.


AnkaLaura,multe rude de-ale mele si multi prieteni au plecat din Romania in alte tari.
Nu stiu din ce cauza , dar nimeni (absolut nimeni) nu vorbeste despre Romania la modul la care se vorbeste pe acest forum de catre anumite persoane(si prin anumite nu inseamna ca le stiu si nu le nominalizez , ci doar ca am citit atatea lucruri urate despre Romania si romani scrise de romani care spera ca sunt altceva , incat nu mai stiu cine , ce a scris).
De fiecare data cand vorbesc cu ei aud lucruri bune despre tara de adoptie si lucruri rele.


Grace , ai fost mult prea subtila cu opacitatea si cazutul

"Mult mai grava ar fi etichetarea nedreapta a unei persoane pe care nu o cunosc deloc "

***Fur is for petting**

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ankalaura spune:

Mona - sotul verisoarei mele este neamt. Este inca indragostit de Romania. Prima data a venit aici in urma cu vreo 3 ani. Este un om cu educatie aleasa si pregatire profesionala de varf, la aproape 50 de ani.
De departe a considerat Brasovul "altfel".
In Bucuresti...
- a fost dezamagit de vizita la Casa Poporului, tichetul scump (mai scump pentru straini decat pentru romani), vizita foarte scurta, domnisoara care ne-a ghidat era plina de sictir (cred ca vroia sa isi ia o pauza sau asa ceva, as spune dupa reactia avuta cand i s-a incredintat micul nostru grup.
- a fost uimit vazand de la geamul meu balcoanele blocului din fata. M-a intrebat, uitandu-se cu insistenta la doua dintre ele, daca acolo traiesc oameni sau sunt apartamente parasite.
- i-a placut Calea Victoriei pe timp de noapte, mai ales CEC-ul; i-a placut Muzeul Satului
- m-a intrebat ce mai putem vedea. Nu am mai prea avut ce sa ii arat....

In Constanta.... se duc la plaja, nu comenteaza despre cat este (sau nu) de curata plaja. Insa a fost dezamagit ca in fiecare an le-a fost zgariata masina, de la cap la coada, dar zgariata adanc frate, sa simta. In primul an au reparat-o, apoi au lasat-o asa.

Si in Constanta si in Bucuresti au avut probleme foarte mari cu parcatul masinii. Ei au un Chrysler Voyager, au copii. Locurile de parcare le-a gasit foarte inguste, foarte scurte. La noi nu a putut parca, aleea este ingusta, daca o parca pe locul nostru, nu mai trecea nimeni pe alee... A lasat-o la juma' de km mai incolo...

Si totusi, inca este fascinat de Romania. Pentru ca a fost cucerit de Brasov, se chinuie de 2 ani sa implementeze cu universitatea Bv un program de pregatire pentru studenti, impreuna cu firma la care el lucreaza. Sa faca traininguri complexe la ei, pentru ca in timp sa deschida aici o sucursala. Este inca nitel mirat de faptul ca el se agita cel mai mult pentru asta, iar pe cei de aici ii cam lasa rece. Pe cei in masura sa misite lucrurile, ma refer. Ca saracii studenti si-ar dori mult sa intre in acest program...

bird70 spune:

Era o gluma . Nici macar nu era o gluma facuta de mine. Mi-a trimis si mie cineva prin email linkul la testul ala. Una din intrebari era cu cati de 'o' se scrie looser. Cum am zis luai maxim daca spuneai 2. Am banuit ca romanii au adoptat cuvantul si il scriu in mod regulat gresit. Mi-am amintit de testul ala cand am citit postul tau. Din nou, doar o gluma .

Health is a state of physical, mental and social wellbeing and not merely the absence of disease or infirmity . World Health Organisation

XIO spune:

E OK atunci , am interpretat eu gresit.
Cred ca majoritatea romanilor care au auzit gluma aia scriu cu 2 o

"Mult mai grava ar fi etichetarea nedreapta a unei persoane pe care nu o cunosc deloc "

***Fur is for petting**

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GewaLNZ1100

http://www.flickr.com/photos/greecky/

conchita spune:

stai sa inteleg: deci rudele tale au numai lucruri bune de spus despre romania, si lucruri bune plus lucruri rele despre tarile de adoptie. iar tie asta ti se pare situatia ideala ilustrativa a obiectivitatii si patriotismului? daca da, join the club: ala de la topicul alalalt, super super jenant, in care romanii din diaspora sunt tarati in noroi de cadane care se indoapa cu mancarea lor, dorm in paturile lor pe gratis, ca sa le comenteze dupa aia desuurile si sa le numere dumicatii in public. despre romanii din romania eu am si lucruri bune de spus, dar si lucruri rele - abia asta e normalitatea. si nu pot suporta parvenitele, pitipoancele, lingaii, coruptii, spagarii, pseudointelectualii, catavencii, ipocritii. pe-astia ii gasesti peste tot, dar cu precadere in mahalaua damboviteana. da cu mine de pamant acuma, na, ca nu-s patrioata si ca am si lucruri rele de spus despre romania, spre deosebire de rudele tale emigrate.

Guestus spune:

pai ce faceti doamnelor...nu suportati mahalaua dimboviteana si apoi 24h /24 despre numai asta vorbiti...de pina si yo m-am plictisit sa va tot aud.
yo pun pariu ca de fapt este o mare dragoste si atractie pt anumite lucruri...dar nu recunoasteti asta neam. ..

voi sinteti ca filozoful Huidu...arde el gazul la TV la sexy braileanca si piticul porno si apoi se intreba ca de ce apar ei la TV si vai ce tara de rahat

conchita spune:

Guestus, nici logica ta nu se simte prea bine. cand ti se arunca in fata ca n-ai mancat salam cu soia si te dai mare cu masina, casa, banii strainataturilor cand iti vine amaratu' din romania in vizita, sa ceara ajutor cu emigrarea, sa iti ia interviul lu' peste prajit, si dupa aia te da in gat ca ai si nu dai, sau ca ai si dai, dar nu tot, sau ca nu ai, ca mananci din gunoaie, si el e mai tare ca tine, normal ca recunosti mahalaua, ca de-acolo venim cu totii. comparatia cu huidu e ca nuca in perete. nu vad nici un roman din diaspora laudandu-se cu reportaje porno, dar din romania, cam da, desi poate ei nu cred ca reportajele lor is izvorate dintr-o minte promiscua. de fapt, nu ma porni despre media romaneasca, o sa ti se sufoce logica de-a dreptul.

XIO spune:

Nu , Conchita , cunoscutii mei vad plusurile si minusurile din ambele tari .
Doar ca atunci cand discuta despre lucrurile rele din Romania nu se exprima cu atata ura si dispret.
De asemenea nu sustin ca in tara adoptiva nimic nu e rau si chiar si caca-ul de pe strada e mai frumos decat cel din Ro.
Cu alte cuvinte , ei vad si partea plina si partea goala a paharului pe care nu ti-l arunca in fata daca indraznesti sa spui ca e ok in tara.
Eu asta nu inteleg , care e problema daca spun ca e ok in Romania?
Da , exista minusuri , dar astea le gasesti oriunde in lume.
Per total e ok aici pt. destule pers. Pt. care nu a fost s-au mutat.

"Mult mai grava ar fi etichetarea nedreapta a unei persoane pe care nu o cunosc deloc "

***Fur is for petting**

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Guestus spune:

Da sint unii chiar sado maso....adica bat cimpii aici cu mizeria din Ro..si apoi cind au si ei concediu...tot in Ro vin.
Asta asa..sa mai acumuleze ceva nervi.
In plus au ce scrie aici la intoarcere.."dragelor..bine v-am gasit...dar este exact mizeria la care ma asteptam in ro...ciinii sint tot acolo..si ce drumuri....inca 200 ani le mai trebuie " .
Dupa parerea mea asta e culmea nebuniei.