despre mucus cervical si ovulatie

Buna dimineata,
Am si eu o nelamurire, poate ma lamuriti cu experienta voastra.
Stiu ca atunci cand apare mucusul cervical este perioda fertila si trebuie sa prestezi, nu?
La un ciclu de 28 zile, nu este normal sa apara mucusul prin a 12 zi?
Mie dupa ce m-am instilat 3 luni pt. desfundarea trompelor dr. Ancar mi-a zis sa prestez din a 11 zi timp de 4 zile consecutiv. Dar eu am avut mucusul in a 8 zi . Trebuia sa incep de atunci, nu ? Dar eu stiu ca teoretic a 8 a zi nu este fertila? Sa fi fost o derelare , sau nu a fost mucus? Dar eu asa il vad. Nu am nici un simptom ca ar fi ceva in nereula la mine. Sau nu inseamna ca daca mi-a aparut mucusul la vedere trebuie sa am si ovulatie?
Ajutati-ma va ro. Am auzit ca daca vrei sa ramai nu trebuie sa ai contact sexual inainte de venirea ciclului ca sa nu deranjezi conceputul acolo.
Va multumesc.

diana

Laura V. spune:

Buna. Sa-ti spun ce stiu eu. Mucusul transparent apare la inceputul perioadei fertile, deci inainte de data fixa a ovulatiei. De asemenea, nu este obligatoiu ca daca apare acest mucus tu vei ovula. El nu face decat sa-ti spuna de cand trebuie sa prestezi si poate sa dureze cateva zile pana la ovulatie (daca aceasta se produce). Singura data cand am ramas insarcinata (in urma cu 12 ani) am prestat in ziua a 8 -a si am ramas.Luna aceasta mucusul a aparut clar in ziua a 9 -a , iar ovulatia la mine stiu ca se produce cam in ziua a 11-a.Contact sexual nu este f. indicat sa ai inainte de menstra pt. ca o eventuala sarcina - care este ff mica - printr-un contact mai adanc poate fi desprinsa. Eu cam asta stiu si sper sa te fi lamurit.

Lorelai spune:

Diana,

mucusul cervical care are consistenta de albus de ou apara de obicei inainte cu citeva zile de ovulatie. El ajuta spermilor sa innoate mai repede. Daca apare e folositor pt conceptie, dar daca nu il ai asta nu inseamna ca nu ovulezi. In US se recomanda pt femeile care au in general mucusul cervical mai uscat sau nu au suficient sa ia sirop de tuse care contine ca ingredient principal Guaifenesin si nimic altceva. Siropul in US se numeste Robitussin. Siropul nu creeaza mai mult mucus numai il subtiaza pe cel existent. E mai ales recomandat atunci cind iei stimulente (clomiphene de ex.) care s-au dovedit ca reduc cantitatea de mucus. Se recomanda sa il iei cite 2 linguri pe zi incepind cu 5 zile inainte de ovulatie si pina in ziua ovulatiei. Eu l-am incercat de 2 ori si de fiecare data am observat o schimbare. Aveam mult mai mult mucus si era chiar ca albusul de ou, adica se intinde cind il prinzi intre degete.
Am patrat undeva un articol despre folosirea guaifenesinului pt subtierea mucusului dar nu mai stiu exact unde l-am pus. Daca vrei il pot cauuta si il postez.

Lorelai

mitzura spune:

Si la mine se intampla la fel la unele cicluri si si pe mine ma mira foarte tare chestia asta, ca aparea mucusul de prin ziua a opta sau a noua, iar ovulatia era prin ziua 12. Cand am ramas insarcinata, tot asa, mucus in ziua 10, iar eu am ramas in ziua 12 sau 13. Deci mucusul anunta ovulatia. oricum la mine se mentine vreo doua trei zile. Si am auzit si eu aceleasi lucruri despre Guaifenezina. E un ingredient care se gaseste in Trecid (medicament pentru tuse), si probabil si in altele.

Oana_B spune:

Buna informatia Lorelai, o sa il cumpar si eu. Te rog, pune si articolul ala, poate aflam mai multe.
ici,
Oana_B

Lorelai spune:

iata si articolul. daca cineva are nevoie de traducere sa imi scrie. as putea sa traduc ce e mai important.
Lorelai

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Using Robitussin/Guaifenesin to Improve Cervical Mucus

At first most people wonder what on earth a cough syrup has to do with fertility, but the logic is easily found in the fact that it is an expectorant and is being used to loosen and thin mucus - just in a different place than the lungs!

The name Robitussin was used in the title of this FAQ as it is a common brand of cough syrup in the United States. It is used on the fertility boards and newsgroups in the same manner as saying Band-Aid for an adhesive strip used to cover a cut. Any expectorant that contains guaifenesin as the only active ingredient is fine to use.

What kind of Robitussin is used to improve cervical mucus?

One should buy the plain kind with no letters after it. The only active ingredient is guaifenesin, and it contains 100 mg per teaspoon. It is very important to avoid the versions that contain decongestants as those may dry up cervical mucus. Also, there is some conflicting information about whether dextromethorphan, the DM in some cough medicine names, may be linked to birth defects such as neural tube defects and cleft palate.

Do I need to use the brand Robitussin?

No. Robitussin is the most common brand name, at least in the U.S., that carries a guaifenesin-only expectorant, but there are other brands and generics available. As long as the only active ingredient is guaifenesin, you can use any variety you find. For those with diabetes or otherwise concerned about sugar intake, there is the brand Diabetic Tussin available.

What is the recommended dose of guaifenesin?

The recommended dose for improving cervical mucus, based on a 1982 article in Fertility and Sterility, is two teaspoons (200 mg) taken orally three times per day. If mucus still appears thick and doesn't have good spinnbarkeit (ability to stretch), one can take as much as four teaspoons (400 mg) four times per day (the maximum dose on this over the counter medication). Each dose should be taken with a full glass of water, and attention should be given to drinking plenty of fluids throughout the day -- one needs water to produce mucus.

What cycle days should one take guaifenesin?

Just as the dose can vary a bit, so can the days. The article linked above had patients starting the guaifenesin on cycle day 5 - five days after the start of menses. This seems rather early as mucus is not an issue until about five days before ovulation - based on the fact that sperm can only live five days at best, and most pregnancies are the result of intercourse in the five days leading up to ovulation. Because of this information, it is now more common for doctors to suggest starting guaifenesin about five days before expected ovulation and continuing through ovulation day (six days total, for those with regular cycles). For those with irregular cycles, one should start taking guaifenesin about five days before the earliest day ovulation might be expected. For those taking Clomid (clomiphene citrate, Serophene) in a 5-day protocol, one can probably wait until the day after the last Clomid pill before starting the expectorant.

Is guaifenesin available in pill form?

Yes, but in most cases a prescription is needed. In the U.S., one can get a 600 mg time released caplet as the generic Guaifenesin CR, or brands Humibid LA, and Fenesin. This is often less expensive than the liquid. Another brand that is available OTC is Mucinex, though it probably is not a cost savings.

How does one diagnose cervical factor/hostile mucus?

Many women try taking guaifenesin after noting little or no egg white (stretchy) cervical mucus while charting their fertility signals, but clinically it is diagnosed when a doctor checks mucus one or two days before ovulation in what is usually referred to as a post-coital test. The doctor does a vaginal exam and takes a sample of mucus to immediately analyze under a microscope to check for live sperm and for a ferning pattern. It is also checked for signs of infection. Quality mucus will be stretchy, fern, lack cellularity, and have live sperm swimming in it.

Why do so many women take guaifenesin while on Clomid?

Clomid (clomiphene citrate, Serophene) can cause hostile mucus in 30 percent or more of women using it. Higher doses tend to be more associated with less cervical fluid and a thinner uterine lining, than the 50 mg dose.

Will guaifenesin help if there is little or no mucus present?

Guaifenesin doesn't actually create mucus, it only thins what is already there. One would need to look into why there is no mucus (infection, not really ovulating), or bypass the mucus issue by doing intrauterine insemination.

Does one need to take guaifenesin when doing intrauterine insemination (IUI)?

It would only make sense to take guaifenesin if one is planning to have intercourse in addition to doing IUI. Those doing donor insemination, for example, wouldn't benefit.

Will taking guaifenesin cause any problems if it isn't needed?

Probably not. Since fertile mucus can be watery, there is probably no harm in taking guaifenesin and thinning it out.

What are some other possible ways to improve cervical mucus?

Drinking plenty of water should always be considered in addition to any other therapies one might try. Estrogen is sometimes given to help mucus production, though doctors have mixed opinions of its benefit, especially when used with Clomid (and some suggest using Tamoxifen instead of Clomid). Injectable gonadotropins used for controlled ovarian hyperstimulation often have a positive effect on cervical mucus as well. Some home/natural remedies include eating salty foods such as popcorn (mucus is very salty), taking evening primrose oil, avoiding dairy products (they can thicken mucus), eating lots of baby carrots, and also avoiding antihistamines, including high doses of vitamin C. Another suggestion that is increasing in popularity is to drink grapefruit juice in order to improve or increase the amount of cervical mucus. If one is on prescription medications, it is a good idea to look for warning about grapefruit juice consumption (it isn't recommended with several medications for hypertension, for example).

Oana_B spune:

Superinteresant articolul, sincer habar nu aveam ca daca bei multa apa ajuta la mucus.
Oana_B

monbb1 spune:

Merci mult, ma tot gandeam la ce-ai scris tu de robitussin si cu articolul asta tare m-ai ajutat. Nu cred ca am probleme cu mucusul dar nu strica sa ajut "tinerii" lenesi.

Merci.